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Stephen M's avatar

Thank you. Interesting.

I am reminded of this podcast I listened to a few months ago:

Morley Robbins: Copper: The Unsung Hero of Human Health

https://docmalik.substack.com/p/335-morley-robbins-copper-the-unsung

(NB there is a transcript button for those who prefer to read)

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Asa's avatar

morley robbins is a healthcare administrator turned ghoulish guru. look at him. he is not a person you want to take health advice from. he looks twice his age.

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Anmadeli's avatar

Have you read his book? Probably not.

Yeah, better to take health advice from Fizer.

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Asa's avatar

lol as if the choice is that ghoul and fizer. he is the king of word salad and i know a lot about his program because i got severely anemic and copper toxic from following his “protocol”. look at him!!!!! wake up!!!!!

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John Wright's avatar

Excellent information.

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Hippybunny's avatar

Thank you! I’m hopeful my high copper may at least have saved me thus far. I knew this from your previous musings! Thank you so much 🙏

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The Wise Wolf's avatar

This comes from a document that was posted to a private, invite-only finance forum back in 2002 that was compromised. It was then posted to 4chan in 2010. This was never meant to be seen by the public - these diseases are being ENGINEERED.

'We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so they will never see what is happening.

We will use soft metals, aging accelerators, and sedatives in food and water, also in the air.

They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn.

The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds.

We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will feed them more poison.

The poisons will be absorbed through their skin and mouths, they will destroy their minds and reproductive systems.'

Full leak here: https://wisewolfmedia.substack.com/p/exclusive-leak-the-secret-protocols

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Dr Christopher Exley's avatar

Well, sounds like aluminium industry policy! Successful at that.

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Asa's avatar
Sep 17Edited

is copper a soft metal? copper is used for birth control (copper iuds) and copper toxicity is a known consequence of birth control pills. i’m staying far away from copper. whose to say copper in the brain is protective and not synergistic with aluminum? we don’t know what it’s doing there, but the fact that our pipes are copper and copper is a known anti fertility mineral speaks volumes to me. morley robbins is a nightmare and nobody gets better following his horrible health advice. taking supplemental copper will destroy you in the long run, may make you feel good short term because like many other poisons, it has a stimulant like effect. just my opinion, but people need to do a lot of research and look for all the bad things that can happen when you start supplementing anything.

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DDR Dave's avatar

Asa please stop saying silly things and pull yourself together. Copper acts as an essential cofactor in a wide range of enzymes, called cuproenzymes, which are crucial for various biological processes like energy production, neurotransmitter synthesis, and protection against oxidative damage.

You are right to be wary of "supplements", me too! If you follow my advice you will be OK. Do not worry about getting enough copper because it's in nuts and seeds, whole grains, legumes, dark chocolate, potatoes, mushrooms, and avocado. Be well.

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Asa's avatar
Sep 18Edited

ok i will try to pull myself together, tough ask. i dont avoid copper in diet as that would be impossible. i am simply warning others against supplementing with copper. which i’m sure, people will want to do as soon as they see, “copper good” for alzheimer’s. and i dont get the logic behind copper in brains must be good based on the data presented. i for sure dont want copper in my brain, but to each his own

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DDR Dave's avatar

Supplements can be contaminated with aluminum. There was an article about this a few years ago at Green Med Info specifically about multi-supplement Centrum and all the stuff they found that should not be there. Since many supplements use colorants, I would check to see if "aluminum lake" is listed on the bottle. I don't think it's possible to do a deep dive at FDA on "inactive ingredients" on supplements, so there can be all kinds of poisons as well as missing active ingredients. The whole idea of a supplement is based on reductionist thinking and profiteering from fear So, like you I avoid them and just pay attention to what's on my dinner plate + sunshine!

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Mike Kreder's avatar

Thanks for all your work in this area Chris. Aluminum has been shown to bind and outcompete iron for binding to and transport via transferrin. Results in unbound iron which drives hydroxyl radical formation and oxidative stress and inflammation, much less the effects of aluminum on various pathways, like heme. This is ONE of the mechanisms involved, extracellularly. It’s a different mechanism and pathology inside the cell and mitochondria.

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DDR Dave's avatar

You are both onto something. Aluminum seems to be interfering with the to and fro transport of iron and copper by binding to/interfering with the transport proteins. This prevents the normal distribution of iron and copper from the source, slowing down removal of excess from organs and causing in-transit disruption of these metal-protein packages. This is not my idea - it's the influence of various passages in the Atom book (e.g. page 21 on transferrin) and seems to be confirmed in the literature.

Just summarised from a larger Google response:

- Aluminum can inhibit the activity of numerous enzymes.

- It can also alter nucleic acid (DNA and RNA) function.

- The wide-ranging impact of aluminum on different proteins, from enzymes to transporters, can cause extensive toxicity throughout the body, including the neurological, skeletal, cardiovascular, and gastrointestinal systems.

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Mike Kreder's avatar

I will dig up an old blog article on all the genes that aluminum inhibits and post it to my substack as well. The short of it is, looking for bio markers to see if you have unbound iron flying around isn’t hard. There are a half dozen I use, some are from hydroxyl radicals, others indirect markers of metabolic dysfunction, one cause being aluminum. Metals like aluminum disrupt cysteine residues in genes, and depending on what the cysteine residue is bound to, drives what metal will destabilize it. Worse if excess nitric oxide is flying around. Even worse if the gene that is supposed to protect these cysteine residues is compromised. Worse yet if back up system is compromised. Triple worse if pathways are inhibited from making cysteine, or iron sulfur clusters which use cysteine.

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Kirsten Thiel P's avatar

I'm so happy I have found you here on Substack!

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Dana Ullman, MPH, CCH's avatar

I wrote a blog which references your important work!

"Comparing INJECTED versus INGESTED Aluminum…and the Serious Dangers of Injected Aluminum":

https://danaullman.substack.com/p/comparing-ingested-versus-injected

Because aluminum seals off pores, its suffocates cells. The important meme that I created is: "When you take water out of biology, you get geology!"

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Dana Ullman, MPH, CCH's avatar

Wow...vaccines with aluminum is quite simply "medical child abuse."

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Nicholas's avatar

Do you think this is similar for ASD? I'm really concerned about the severe cases of Autism. Also, what about iron supplements and pregnant women. They want them to take 27 mg per day. Then they get bad hemorrhoids, which is caused by the iron. I honestly don't think it's necessary and possibly could be causing a negative affect on top of the hemorrhoids. Maybe the hemorrhoids is where the body sends all of the unnecessary overabundance of iron? I don't know. I definitely do not want extra iron going to my baby if it is harmful to his/her brain. Thoughts?

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Dr Christopher Exley's avatar

ASD? I think you need to read my many posts on this subject.

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Dr Christopher Exley's avatar

PS No, I don't think excess iron in the brain is a significant factor in severe infant autism.

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DDR Dave's avatar

The book 'Imagine You Are An Aluminum Atom' is mandatory for all subscribers (I hereby declare). See pages 2, 27, 58, 80-84, 93-94, 100, 124, 141, 143. Best to read Chapter 11 and 13 which discuss ASD. Check out page pg 90 for a table of all diseases so far connected to aluminum. Some of these diseases are discussed, with new evidence within Dr. Exley's substack - like Type 2 diabetes.

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

Yikes, A Midwestern Doctor did an Alzheimer's article today and he went into the zeta potential hypothesis of how aluminum influences getting Alzheimer's. I'm a bit tired of him obsessing over zeta potential. Just call it what it is, an element that slows and/or blocks normal processes in the body. Aluminum is a weaker catalyst than the metals we evolved to use!

Also the obsession with "misfolded" proteins is backwards. The "misfolded" proteins are merely damaged proteins. There's no magical mutation...

Viruses are another backwards diagnosis. When there's debris built up due to damage (or impaired elimination whether the liver or kidneys) we end up with damaged cells which are interpreted as exosomes or viruses.

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/the-great-alzheimers-scam-and-the

"Note: I strongly believe one of the triggers for amyloid misfolding is a loss of zeta potential (as negative charges stabilize suspended proteins rather than causing them to clump together). In turn, there has been considerable controversy regarding whether aluminum is associated with Alzheimer’s. Studies have been put forward suggesting it is not (Bredesen for example, believes the evidence is sufficient to link mercury but not aluminum to Alzheimer’s), while others suggest it is and have provided data that it can be found within amyloid plaques. Presently, my opinion is that negatively charged amyloid has a high affinity for aluminum, and likewise, as aluminum is a highly effective agent for denaturing and precipitating proteins (due to its effect on zeta potential) and I suspect aluminum induces amyloid proteins to misfold and aggregate into plaques."

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Dr Christopher Exley's avatar

I am a scientists citing science. I am not sure what he is.

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currer's avatar

Just watched the Trump announcement on autism.. As far as I can gather...because Trump is utterly incoherent, the cause of autism is Tylenol - (paracetamol in the UK) and folate deficiency.

Also a massive further expenditure of taxpayers money will be funnelled into yet more ground breaking and self-congratulatory open ended research on a possible link with vaccines. (this will probably conclude in the distant indefinite future, once no more funding can be wrung out of the system)

Very sad for all the vax toxic brain damaged children yet to be born in the US. Clearly the US has no use for healthy intelligent citizens.

Kennedy looked as if he was going to his execution, and fumbled his papers at the end.

Amazing! Trump can talk utter gibberish with total composure and absolute self confidence. Has he ever listened to himself?

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Dr Christopher Exley's avatar

Trump says...no aluminium in vaccines!

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LoverOfHills's avatar

He said, "You know what is Aluminum. You know what is Mercury. Why the Hell would you want that Pumped Into Your Body!"

I about fell off my chair, Doc E! Yeehaw!! Your day has come, sir. Finally.

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currer's avatar

But he has no plan to get aluminium out. In fact it was impossible to make out what he meant to say...and I tried hard because I really wanted to know!

BUT!

Kennedy did not clarify the aluminium point. He did not enlarge on anything Trump hinted at...and we know that Trump trolls people with hopium all the time. He is so incoherent he can make anyone believe whatever they want to...that is the aim I think.

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Dr Christopher Exley's avatar

There is a plan.

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currer's avatar

You know?

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LoverOfHills's avatar

Can't you read between the lines? He started the announcing, with, ".. they wanted me to wait 2 months. I told them, No, tell them now.". And he did!

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Candy's avatar

Thank you.

I have always had a high level of iron (at least the labs have been high-16.2 hemoglobin in 2021) in my blood. I know that doesn’t necessarily translate to high iron in all tissues, but would it indicate a higher than normal requirement for copper to protect my brain? Hopefully I asked that question correctly

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Dr Christopher Exley's avatar

No, I don't think so. I plan to write about this in a future post but it may be as much to do with where the excess iron is in the brain as to the absolute amount.

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Sylvie's avatar

In hair tissue analysis, I notice many clients with excess iron and/or copper in their lab analysis results which means, according to what I have learned, these minerals are not being well absorbed properly in the body and are being deposited in the tissues and organs. One client in particular has this problem and also shows high amounts of aluminum in the multiple hair samples. This client's father was diagnosed with alzheimer's in his early 60s. We are working on detoxing and balancing the minerals/metals. My father, 93 has also the same pattern with excess copper and iron stored in the body with a high level of aluminum. He has mild dementia. Now, with what you have shared in this post, Dr. Exley, it is making me think wisely about the patterns I see with my clients hair lab reports. Thank you!

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Candy's avatar

Okay

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Ivo Zvardon's avatar

Thanks for those information, Chris. I wish everybody would read your studies on the Alzheimer/Al link. They are priceless.

Interestingly though, it seems that the connection between Alzheimer and Aluminium has been know for quite some time. Total coincidence - my girlfriend has read recently 2 novels, in both of them Al was mentionned as a cause of Alzheimer. She pointed this out to me just because she knows I am interested in this topic lately, and it struck her as well. Does it mean some older studies connecting Al to Alzheimer exist?

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Dr Christopher Exley's avatar

Yes, the first published research in this field goes back to the 1960s.

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Ivo Zvardon's avatar

Thanks for your reply. Was it peer-reviewed? It is still possible to find it? It seems like 60 years passed between this research and your research, and the link between Alzheimer and Aluminium is still being debunked by the health authorities and the medias..

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Dr Christopher Exley's avatar

Yes, you can find this 'history' in my book.

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Ivo Zvardon's avatar

Ok, will check it out. Thanks, Chris.

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Robyn S's avatar

So the significantly higher iron levels might be from...what? Supplements? Diet? Rust in water pipes? Chemicals we breathe in?

Or just as a balance level (or lack thereof...) in comparison to copper and/or aluminium levels, perhaps? Almost like it acts as a modulator?

Or is it all about the oxidative damage that you touched on? For whatever reason there could be too much iron in a person's body/brain, and this then might accelerate AD, whilst very little perhaps staves it off?

And do you know if the iron/copper/aluminium levels in brain tissue have any correlation at all to other body tissue levels eg iron or copper levels in blood?

Thanks Dr Exley :-)

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Dr Christopher Exley's avatar

I suspect a number of factors are involved including high exposure and iron metabolism per se. The same being true for copper as both are essential metals for the body.

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LW's avatar

Isn’t it important to balance zinc and copper? Is hair testing best?

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Dr Christopher Exley's avatar

Your body does that and...probably not.

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Asa's avatar

On the Mohs hardness scale, pure copper has a hardness of about 2.5-3, which places it in the softer range of metals. For comparison, aluminum is around 2.75, while iron is about 4-5, and hardened steel can be 5-6.5 or higher. copper is very similar to aluminum in its “softness”. it is a soft metal. no metals should be in the brain. none of it is good. in my opinion of course.

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DDR Dave's avatar

Hardness is only relevant to elemental metal in metallurgy, geology, circuit boards etc. Iron, copper and aluminium exist in the body as dissolved positively charged species (ions). Aluminum is the most highly charged and the smallest so it's able to manoeuvre in close and "toss hand grenades" at proteins. Iron and copper ions have a more regulated and benevolent interaction with proteins rather than chaotic and devastating like aluminium.

Note sodium and potassium are "soft" metals in their elemental states, while calcium and magnesium are also considered soft, though not as soft as the alkali metals (sodium and potassium)

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Hannah's avatar

Any opinions on parenteral iron infusions as a practice?

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Dr Christopher Exley's avatar

For iron deficiency?

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Hannah's avatar

Yes, sorry.

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